I finally "cracked the code" and successfully played the E3 DVD-ROM Bonus Material. If you've had problems opening it up on your PC, maybe this will help. Some comments on the material too.
As I found out later, I initially experienced what many others had; that playing the content on the web with the Shockwave player was difficult to do. Many have experienced the Shockwave error, or the browser simply freezing up amongst other problems. After being unsuccessful on one PC, I tried again on another to no avail. After a little tinkering with some settings, still more of the same - nada. So, I just gave up to figure it out another day, after snickering to myself about the multilayered irony of my inadequate technology and how it just wasnt working to get to the next level of features put forth by some of the worlds greatest technological innovators at LFL and co. Not to mention the saga's underlying theme about technology.
Many months have passed (almost 3 to be precise), and after some intermittent browsings on the message board's DVD threads to see what others have done, I finally sat down to try it again. I started back at the message board thread in the E3 forum: DVD Talk: Not Equipped for DVD.StarWars.com (Technical Issues) [TDE], going over QueenAmidala's troubleshooting checklist a couple more times (see first post of the above thread and check this list too, if you've been having problems).
Everything in the checklist was okay for me so my next step was to see if I could get any kinks worked out with the Shockwave player. To play it safe, I went to the Macromedia website to download the player again, hoping that it would have picked up any updates since the last time I tried to download it. What I realized is that it seems the Shockwave player had never really "fully" installed the other times I had downloaded it. To insure against this happening again, I opted to download it via the standalone installer and following the installation directions listed on the download page.
Note - Make sure you are downloading and installing the Shockwave player as opposed to the Flash player at the Macromedia site. These are two different players and are often confused as synonymous.
If you went through QueenAmadala's checklist and still had problems, I highly recommend you download the player as the standalone. Click the following link to download the Shockwave player standalone installer for PC (follow the directions on the page) - http://sdc.shockwave.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockwave&P2_Platform=Win32&P3_Browser_Version=NetscapePre4
After getting the Shockwave player squared away, I put the DVD into my computer and again followed the directions in the checklist by letting the DVD open itself up and clicking on quit, then opening a browser window and going to the following page - http://www.starwars.com/dvd/. I followed all the prompts to get to E3 content and allowed the page to load, which didnt take long really, I was just giving it any extra time it may need to not be so touchy and so I could pray for no errors and/or freeze ups.
When You get to the E3 Content, there are two options on the menu tab; Script to Screen and Depth Commentary. Both are a full run of the movie with the added and respective content scrolled at the bottom throughout the duration, and divided by chapters as an option. Note - The way it came up on my screen made it look like the Script to Screen content was open, when it was actually the Depth Commentary and vice versa. Dont let this fool you. You will know you are playing the Depth Commentary if its menu tab is white and the bottom of the window has the "commentary legend" which shows the text color code.
The window where the movie actually played for me, had a strip of color and color dashes (constantly changing), a vector gutter I like to call it, right under the viewing window. This alarmed me at first, thinking something was going to go wrong, but in the end it didnt interfere with anything.
The first thing to open up is the "Script to Screen" content. Upon starting to play this and attempting to backup and fast forward with the player controls (maybe I clicked too many things too quickly), I ended up bouncing back to the start menu a couple of times. I started to worry a bit at this point that I might be on another dead end street. But after giving it a couple of extra seconds to load (even though it looked ready), it seemed to play out rather smoothly. The Script to Screen content was interesting enough. If you havent seen it yet, it is virtually the movie playing out with the script scrolling underneath the main window. Something like playing with English sub -titles (closed captions) on but with the added bonus of scene descriptions as well, as you would see in a text copy of a script.
Playing the content was still not without some bugs, of which I got through with a little patience and perseverence....
Being the audio commentary buff that I am, trivia junkie and basically really interested in film production - especially having to do with Star Wars, I quickly moved onto the "Depth Commentary". While trying to get this to play I received a Shockwave error window which upon clicking to close the error window, the whole page briefly froze. When I initially tried to run the DVD content back in November this is exactly what happened. This time around however, I managed to re-open the original page in my browser after only a few moments and the Depth Commentary played without problems.
Basically, make sure your Shockwave player is properly installed and just stick with it when problems come up. If you give it a couple moments to preload when things look a little quirky, instead of madly clicking on things, it should end up okay. Also, I am running it on my PC, with Windws XP and Internet Explorer or Mozilla Firefox (Firefox seems to work a little better), a pretty standard set up. Im not sure if these same procedures will help to play it on a Mac (even though it says on the DVD that it may run on OSX 10 or better I beleive) or other OSs and browsers. Good luck and hope this helps.
* Also make sure whichever browser you are using is updated to the most current version available.
It also can't hurt to make sure your operating system is kept up to date.
P.S. - I was going to comment on the Depth Commentary here, but I'll save that for another day and another blog.
Update - Later after playing through the Depth Commentary with no problems, I decided to test it out again to see if it would run for me. Nope. As I wrote in the comments below, I tried several times and the same (original) Shockwave error continued to come up, with no luck getting it to play again. Then I decided to try a couple of months later, and after going through all the steps again carefully, it worked. Maybe its a full moon thing.
If it doesn't work the first time, just try and go through all the steps again, closing out of any browser or other windows (including closing down your DVD player program - it may also help to eject the disc and reinsert it to start over). I'm not sure if server traffic might cause problems too, so if you've tried it a few times in a row and it still doesn't work, try coming back to it later again.
* Coming in October 2006 - A complete DVD guide to all of the Star Wars DVDs *
- The OT DVDs as well as the other PT discs work differently in some cases. I'll try to map it all out with more tips in the next DVD blog.
Original date posted on blogs.starwars.com: Jan 29, 2006 2:01 PM | updated: Oct 11, 2006 7:18 PM
See the new entry that replaced this:
Guide to Star Wars Saga DVD-ROM Exclusive Content Complete:
Accessing exclusive online DVD-ROM content for all Star Wars saga DVDs: Depth Commentaries, Script to Screen and more (or less). Troubleshooting, known issues, possible solutions... you name it, I've tried it.
Posted by starthunder at 12:39 PM
Star Wars Action Figures
I saw a little clip on ye olde telly earlier, of a pretty fantastic Star Wars action figure homemade video, so I gandered on over to the internet to check it out. One thing led to another and I found a bunch o' cool stuff to inject into your brains...
First the one that started this all:
The Carbon Freeze Sequence
- This is pretty much verbatim and true to the actual scene in The Empire Strikes Back. Starring... all Star Wars action figures!
This might be backtracking, but...
Star Wars Cantina
- Yep, once again starring our beloved Star Wars action figures. The full scene, great set, stop motion and live action mixed, but (spoiler warning)... Who shot first? BOO HISSS!
Faster... more intense...
Probot's Star Wars in 3 minutes
- Another mix of stop motion and live action. Our beloved Episode IV figures zip us through the basics of everybody's true first episode
- The YouTube user probot also did an original series of Star Wars EU style fan flicks with action figures: Prequel Episode 01, 02 and 03. The 03rd episode gets a little wacked (and less Star Warsy), but you'll have that when a fan takes on a life of their own.
I stumbled upon this big little 4 part series and really thought it deserved some viewage. It's on the lengthy side (each episode is almost 9 minutes), but the homemade set gets better and better (beleive me on this one!), all the way up to the end. You just have to get past the used asthma inhalers, and it's uphill from there - I swear. The animation is really pretty good: stop motion with mouth movement. Once again we have our very own Star Wars action figures with some *ahem* customizations, along with some friends from other universes, like Transformers and is that Terminator? Somewhere Else... as in not the GFFA, or here on Earth - ? Lots of inspiration in this one. Star Wars meets anime style (some Akira and Final Fantasy references in there), meets pretty much every other sci-fi - action genre influence. It's a pity you can't get better resolution from this source to truly appreciate this set. Give it a try, you might like it:
Somewhere Else: Conflict #1
(you can link to the other three parts in the explore bar, but I'll link them here too)
Somewhere Else: Conflict #2
Somewhere Else: Conflict #3
Somewhere Else: Conflict #4
- user source
Not action figures...
This last mention goes out for I.M.P.S. The Relentless. Not an action figure flick, but pretty cool fan flick nonetheless. It's still in the works, but you can view the first part that's done on their site I linked to. It's also around the YouTube, if you want quick and easy loading but bad resolution. Some pretty good CG and live action in this one.
Come on! You want me to stay because of the way you feel about me.
Attack of the Blog
Posted by starthunder at 2:18 AM
For any of you who like to check out some of the fan films, now is your chance to have your say as to which you like the best.
Go to Atom Films on the web and put in your vote from the 10 finalists for the Audience Choice Award... because, hey, what else are you gonna do this week? George Lucas is doing it. Voting ends on July 5th.
And I was so close to a 2 line blog. Ah well, my day will come.
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You can find the 10 films and cast your vote here:
Edit - Now that I watched them all...
Pimp My Ship Up - I had to go with this one, even though there are so many other Star Wars spoofs that mimic reality TV. Compared to the rest of the 10 options however, I thought this one was overall the funniest, and consistent. It was just long enough (a lot of them were too short), there was some good CG in there, and the commercials were fabulous (especially the IPod/3PO spoof). Not to mention the tribute to George Lucas' "space junk". If it weren't a parody on the whole mentality, I might have been slightly offended by the stereotypical objectification of women, like the slave Leia dashboard wobbly and the logo on the seat cover... but "Booty Hunter" is just too funny! There were a lot of funny little gags in there. But the show host should've been greener IMO.
Close runners up for me:
Han Shoots First - This one was a close second for me, and I would have chosen this for first but it was a little too short and a bit vague as to its intentions. I'm *pretty* sure it was a spoof trailer for the OOT release in September 2006. The pure matter of emphasis on Han shooting first in the OOT was enough for me to *almost* vote for this one. Well cut. Wish these weren't so darn small screened.
Pitching Lucas - This one was pretty good. Well cut, good effects, interesting enough story, acting was good (from certain angles the Lucas actor almost looked like him). There was something about it I didn't like though. Maybe it just wasn't interesting enough for me.
Blue Milk - Definitely funny, but a little too low budget-esque for me. Must be why they had to hire Rive Caedo for the leading part. She did a great job, but those Imps were just as mindless as usual.
Memoirs of a Padawan - This one would definitely be an honorable mention. I just liked it.. especially picking up the hot end of the rotoscoped wiffle ball bat The whole thing was a nice thought.
sith'd is a great concept, and they filmed it well. The acting and idea (for this particular "episode") is only so-so. I think they could do some great stuff with the concept though. Maybe there will be future episodes.
All the others... not too inspired in my opinion. Overall, I'm not feeling this is the best crop to choose from, but it's still good to see fans hard at work in honor of the saga.
Anyone wanna place bets on what George Lucas will pick? Republic credits only of course, since they're not worth a dram of exposed glitterstim. I wonder how he'll take Pitching Lucas.
Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?
This has been a public service announcement... with power converters!
Hate how they always cut Leia out of that.
*I'm in one of those moods today*
Posted by starthunder at 2:13 AM
Edited for post-Serenity Day:
Serenity Day has now passed. Did you buy it? Rent it? Watch it? I would think that the proceeds from rentals also will all tally in to show how popular Serenity is, as fans pulled together on June 23rd. The show of support by fans of Firefly led to the making of Serenity in the first place. Star Wars would not have gotten far if it weren't for the fan reaction to Episode IV, and George Lucas has acknowledged this. Now we'll see what Serenity Day will lead to.
I didn't think I would be able to get a copy on the day, as I was stuck on the outer rim world of East Yapeepee, at a graduation dinner party type thing. Lo and behold, I found an oasis of a commercial center whilst navigating the speeder truck back to home base (and enjoying an incredible twin sunset on the way - serenity sure is a good word for it).
The last widescreen edition on the shelf? I'll take it. I enlightened the shop dude as to the reason I was purchasing my copy, and he mentioned there were a few other life forms inquiring about the very same movie and or Firefly TV series that day.
Fan participation is pretty fun. I felt so a part of something picking up my DVD of Serenity on Serenity Day, just as I felt a part of the Star Wars fandom when I went to see ROTS, and any other SW film in theaters as much as I could, to put my small part in and boost box office scores. And what a success the fans have made of Star Wars.
Bragging rights: I got to catch a few of the Firefly episodes when they were originally aired several years back, which drew me to see Serenity when it hit theaters last year. I liked it then, and I like it now - but I think nowhere near as zealously as some I've seen (I'm a Star Wars fan who enjoys a little fan fun in some other things too). So I feel a little extra special at participating in Serenity Day.
Bummer that the DVD came with a coupon for $10 off if I bought any Battlestar Galactica season along with it. They didn't have any of them in stock! I'm still waiting on the complete BSG second season anyway, and Serenity was on sale too. I strongly urge anyone who hasn't checked out the new BSG, to do so.
Of course I couldn't stop there with the Star Wars on the brain that I have. Always looking for cool things related to our beloved saga and it's actors. Looking through the selections, I had my paws on a copy of Long Way Round, but it was a bit too pricey, so I put it back with a mental note to find it online for a nicer price. I'll just have to wait a little longer to see Ewan's glory ride to the fullest. I did find a copy of Comic Book the Movie for 6 bucks. I love anything Mark Hamill. Score! I'll take it... I did take it.
Why the heck do I have a picture of George Lucas with our fuzzy and shiny friends? The reasons are several. For one, I really do feel a sense of serenity when I gaze upon this picture. Another is that I'm giving George Lucas props for largely creating the environment that allowed for a series like Firefly and Serenity to come into being, both CG/SFX-wise and conceptually. Star Wars has set the stage and pioneered for so much of the "genre" as we know it today. I don't think Star Trek would even be what it has become throughout the years if it weren't for George Lucas and Star Wars. Joss Whedon has attested to being greatly inspired by George and the saga in his Serenifly ventures.
Here's to creativity and filmmakers who hear their fan base, and speak back to them in their art.
But what REALLY made my day is when I saw my dad. "You'll never guess what I pulled out of the basement" the dark lord of the thunderwalker clan said to me with a twinkle of excitement at our mutual family love of Star Wars. The Force is strong in our family and I knew something good was coming. He pulled out an original 1983 copy of the authorized biography of George Lucas: Skywalking: The Life and Films of George Lucas. I felt like I did getting Star Wars toys on the holidays as a kid as he handed it over to me, as if he were handing down the family lightsaber. I'm so excited, I scanned the cover.
Overall a pretty good and shiny day today. As the hour grows late here in the unknown regions, I'm going to put in my spiffy new Serenity DVD. Who else got their DVD today? Anybody watching tonight?
Now let's blow this thing and go home!
And if you haven't already, check out these sweet Star Wars action figure movies.
Attack of the Blog
Posted by starthunder at 12:38 AM
... I can kill you with my brain.
Are you a Star Wars fan and crave some more swashbuckling fun and excitement in outer space?
Do you think Han Solo is one of the coolest junk heap driving, blaster appreciatin', good guy scoundrels around (and want to see more characters like him and his ship)?
Do you wonder what in the ruttin' heck Sol and Vic are talking about when they say "I'll be in my bunk"?
Have you laughed at Rive's use of the expletives "gorram" and "shiny" but had no idea where the prissy little 10 year old ribbon barrette weilding cookie slinging girl scout came up with them?
Wonder where all those other quotes the cool kids keep spewing are coming from, because for the life of you, you can't find them anywhere in the Star Wars films?
The time is now to get crackin' and get educated. See for yourself why so many fans of Star Wars also think the 2002 one season wonder Firefly is so gorram shiny. You may love it, you may hate it, you may not get it, but you'll never know until you give it a try. Go out and rent the four disc TV series on DVD, or better yet - buy it. But hold off for 9 more days (is my math right?) on buying the subsequent movie that takes off from the Firefly series, called Serenity.
Why now you ask? Why are all these Firefly and Serenity blog entries popping up at blogs.starwars.com? Well, I won't take up your precious time and attention spans talking about why I like it... not now at least. Find out for yourself why there's a large and growing fan base behind the show and the movie, and see if you want to be part of the fun, part of a community that can make something happen through each individual's participation. Start watching Firefly today.
The fans are keeping the spirit of Serenity (the ship and the film named for it) alive by getting together, and spreading the word to the uninformed, to purchase a copy of Serenity on DVD on June 23rd.
So if you're not a fan yet, the next 9 days are a good time to watch the Firefly series and decide for yourself if it's something worth joining in with the fan fun, and supporting by buying Serenity on June 23rd. If you have to order the movie, make sure you do it on the 23rd... and you can always rent it on that day too if you want to watch it (rental sales count too!) - Have a Serenity party! Already own the movie? Buy it as a gift for someone on the 23rd. Been thinking of buying it anyway? Hold off until the 23rd and watch the Firefly series in the meantime.
Worse could happen is you'll pick up soom cool Chinese terminology ching-wao tsao duh liou mahng! Dong-ma?
With a show of enough fan interest and support, we may see another Firefly/Serenity movie come about, and possibly even the continuation of the TV series in some form.
Yeah... so I promised guitars with this public service announcement. Um, pop in one of them there Firefly DVDs and you'll get a nice little guitar ballad with every episode, written by master of the black, Joss Whedon himself. Joss who? Click around some of the links in here to find out about him.
Attack of the Blog
Posted by starthunder at 3:37 PM
I've been filling in the gaps of the TV series Battlestar Galactica recently, and watching the episodes I had missed from the first couple of seasons on DVD. I had only seen scattered episodes of its two season lifespan thus far and had a general idea of the storyline, but still really enjoyed each episode on its own.
Now that I've seen most of it all together in sequence I'm really impressed, blown away a bit in fact, and I have another TV show to look forward to (along with the Star Wars TV series) with season 3 due to air in October of 2006. This show is pretty frakking good, if not at least for the reason that it gave me a brand new swear word to play with that hasn't reached censorship status.
I highly recommend it to any Star Wars or sci-fi fan, or anyone who enjoys a good conceptual story that is well represented through its medium both visually and as written. Okay, the hand held camera shake effect can seem a little over the top at times. I guess that contributes to the overall unique style of the show, and is reminiscent of both the original Battlestar Galactica series from the 1970's as well as the whole genre of Flash Gordon through Godzilla type cinematography. I'm just not much of a fan of quick zoom and flash panning in lieu of well edited static frame shots. We have some great state of the art equipment and technology today, so why not use it.
I'll say one thing though, they did a great job with CG and SFX for a mere TV show. It gets a little retro at times, but since it's intentional, and actually looks intentional, I'll accept it. In that respect, they put modern CG tools to good use. It's also filmed completely in HD, so I guess it had to be dumbed down a bit to get the realistic look.
I did have a hard time taking the show seriously when I first heard about it, I think back in '03 or '04. A remake of the series I watched as a kid to fill the void left after seeing the new phenomenon of Star Wars in the theaters, which I quickly became consumed by (Star Wars that is), seemed like more of a novelty and I had doubts as to its success. To my amazement, the new Battlestar Gallactica "reimagined" won many awards and acclaim shortly into its first season, even though I wasn't all that surprised after having seen a couple episodes. It was nice to see something as cool as this (at least cool to me, and my version of cool is usually a bit outside the mainstream) gain such positive recognition even beyond its own sci-fi genre microcosm.
I don't remember much about the story of the original Battlestar Gallactica series, just images and feelings really . I suppose if I wanted to I could research it all through the websites (they do have a sufficient amount of stuff on the web to get immersed in), but frankly I have enough energy concentrated elsewhere in the online world of fandom.
The differences I've been able to see from the old to new series are that one of the main characters "Starbuck" has been transformed to a female role in the new series. The old series had Starbuck probably a little too close to a swashbuckling Han Solo 'come' X-Wing squadron leader type feel. Also, the old series had a fuzzy robot dog mascot named 'Tweekie' (edit - the name was Muffit. The "Twiki" I was thing of a robot from the 80's Buck Rogers), which would have been something like the equivalent of R2 with maybe some 'Chewie the side-kick' attributes thrown in there. There's no real mascot/side-kick character in the new series that I can say would fit into that role.
They used the same basic ship designs, especially for the Ast fighters which in the new series are museum artifacts they had to make use of after the unexpected exile from Caprica (this is the starting point for the series). They are a virtual flashback to the old series, where the Viper was certainly inspired by the X-Wing concept. But maybe it had something to do with Ralph McQuarrie working as the original concept artist for both the original BSG and original Star Wars.
There are some cool tie-ins to the old series too, from borrowed set designs to flash backs of the older model cylon troopers/robots (yeah... pretty much storm/clone troopers) that were used in the 70's show. The funniest thing I've found is the appearance of actor Richard Hatch as the character Tom Zarek in the new series. Richard Hatch played Apollo in the original series from the 70s and still has the same exact haircut. Talk about a tie-in! His new character is vastly different from that of Apollo, who is played by the young and broodish Jamie Bamber. The fact that Starbuck is now female, but Apollo is still male in the new series, puts an interesting spin on the two characters' relationship.
The new series is supposedly "re-imagined" from the original story "in which a 'rag-tag fugitive fleet' of the last remnants of mankind flees pursuing aliens (cylons - also from the original series) while simultaneously searching for their true home, Earth".
The word "alien" in this quoted plot outline from battlestargalactica.com has a much different meaning, and I question how appropriate it is here. One would learn this in the first few minutes of the introductory miniseries anyway, so it's not much of a spoiler, but the "aliens" actually originated as robot/computer/servants (another massive departure from the original series where cylons were in fact real aliens) that were created by the humans in the first place. The cylons, empowered by the intelligence instilled in them, rebelled and separated from the humans to build their own life, and to meet again many years later...
Earth, however, is more of a prophecy that no one is sure really exists. A lot of interesting and familiar themes are chocked up in the main concept here, especially relative to Star Wars themes (except of course the concept of Earth) which the original series was perhaps rightfully accused of spinning off. The plot revolves primarily around the commander and pilots and lead ship of the fleet, much like our X-Wing, Jedi and clone pilot aviation theme in Star Wars. There's definitely a lot of X-Wing pilot/Luke Skywalker moments. But at the same time, the series draws some of the elements from other popular shows today, like JAG and West Wing for example, with gritty realistic military life overlapped with a subplot of the intimacies of political leadership.
Another cool theme of the show is the spiritual aspect of these humans from another time and another place. It could be a long time ago in a GFFA (okay, look back at the blog title now if you couldn't read it at first glance - whatever, I thought it looked sorta cool), or is it far off into the distant future and still in the same galaxy.
If the relative timeline was specified in the show, I guess I missed that, but it seems to be a question begging to be asked as well as a big nod to Star Wars itself. The humans, for the most part, believe in the same pantheon of Greek Gods we know from the ancient mythology and the story of the Iliad. The cylons have a formulated beleif system of sorts too, but that of a single god.
But the question is as to whether these were the "ones" who brought these ideas to our Earth long ago, or are they remnants of our original Earth ideas projected long into the distant future? There is much borrowed from other Earth spiritual traditions we know on the show, but the main focus stays with the Hellenistic v. Judeo-Christian mindset, which I find really interesting. Not bad for someone who claims to not be the religious type. I guess it's the mindless philosopher in me, more than an actual practitioner. To keep this whole conceptual ball rolling, the idea that "this has all happened before, and will happen again" is frequently mentioned, suggesting that the events of the human drama are played out in a constant loop throughout infinity, and that our reality fluctuates in perspectives.
Star Wars seemingly spawned some thinking on the question of "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" and humanity's role in the cycle of time relative to our present lives on Earth. It brings me back to another one of my favorite shows from the late 70's called Star Blazers, which was an early anime series featuring another rag-tag band of human space travelers who had a mission to save the human race. Like BSG, Star Blazers made an attempt to bring the concept of the human role in the universe implied with the GFFA, into the context of Earth relevance.
I especially appreciate the notion that the two main spiritual/cultural perspectives differ in that one is a more dualistic view of good v. evil, and the other is more of a tragic view of humanity involving less defined contrasts. Okay, at least this is where stories like this take my thought processes, the same way Star Wars inspires deeper thinking. I am obviously attracted to the ideas of ancient mythology being embedded into the story, which BSG does, but in a different fashion than Star Wars. The whole cylon DNA cloning thing is another theme that is a big part of Star Wars and also relevant today, and straddles the ideas about what makes us human yada yada... We've got all of our other crucial character and plot elements here too: faulted heroes finding their way, family ties that can make or break the survival of the masses, scoundrels gone good, etc. However, nothing is an exact copy of the same scenario in Star wars.
Before the scroll bar gets too big, I'll tie this up and just end it with a high recommendation for the series. It's earned two thumbs up from this fangirl. And really, I never considered myself so much of a sci-fi fan as much as a good story and concept enthusiast. But then again, supposedly if you don't think you're crazy, you probably are.
A little edit here - Thought I'd post some links to a couple of the other websites aside from the one I included above.
As anyone could have probably predicted, theres a Wiki page for BSG: Battlestar Wiki. They actually have one of my favorite quotes up today from the miniseries...
Starbuck: I thought you were dead.
Apollo: I thought you were in hack.
Starbuck: It's good to be wrong.
Apollo: You should be used to that by now.
Starbuck: Everyone's got a skill.
Scifi.com also has thier own Battlestar Galactica site.
Note - If you plan on purchasing the DVD sets, only the first half of season 2 has been put to DVD as of the date of this blog. Season 1 was my personal favorite (especially since it includes the mini series in the set), and I probably wouldn't bother owning season 2 until the second half comes out on DVD, and if they compile it to one set.
Posted by starthunder at 5:00 PM
This is a chronological list of Star Wars Novels. No comics or games, just the books.... well okay, and a few graphic novels. I am including the in-continuity young readers series books, as well as a few graphic novels relevant to the story in other EU books.
2 Good EU references:
- The Star Wars New Essential Chronology*
- Star Wars Timeline Gold
Note: Some of the different eras overlap where an era starts within another era. Also, I have tried to keep series books together even though some books jump ahead and coincide with others on the timeline - those dates are noted (see the X-Wing series starting 6ABY). Otherwise, if an entry doesnt have a year BBY or ABY after it, it occurs at at the same time or right after the last entry with a date above it.
BBY = (years) Before the Battle of Yavin
ABY = (years) After the Battle of Yavin
(@ ) = Expected release date
*GN* = Graphic Novel (there's just a few in here)
The Novels of Star Wars
-------------------- OLD REPUBLIC ERA - 25000 - 22 BBY >
-------------------- SITH ERA - 1025 -1000 BBY >
Path of Destruction - Drew Karpyshyn (@ September 26, 2006)
-------------------- RISE OF THE EMPIRE ERA - 245 - 1 BBY >
Jedi Apprentice: (young reader series) - starting 44 BBY
- 1 - The Rising Force - Dave Wolverton
- 2 - The Dark Rival - Jude Watson>>
- 3 - The Hidden Past
- 4 - The Mark of the Crown
- 5 - The Defenders of the Dead
- 6 - The Uncertain Path
- 7 - The Captive Temple
- 8 - The Day of Reckoning
- 9 - The Fight for Truth - 43 BBY
- 10 - The Shattered Peace
- 11 - The Deadly Hunter
- 12 - The Evil Experiment
- 13 - The Dangerous Rescue
- 14 - The Ties That Bind - 41 BBY
- 15 - The Death of Hope
- 16 - The Call to Vengeance
- 17 - The Only Witness - 40 BBY
- 18 - The Threat Within
- Two Special Editions of Jedi Apprentice - see 29BBY
Cloak Of Deception - James Luceno -33 BBY
Darth Maul - *GN* (Black Sun/TPB graphic novel) - Writer: Ron Marz
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter - Michael Reaves - 32.5 BBY
- Darth Maul : Saboteur - (novella included in Shadow Hunter) - occurs directly before Cloak of Deception - 33.5 BBY
-------------------- movie era begins -
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace - Terry Brooks (novelization) -32 BBY
Rogue Planet - Greg Bear - 29 BBY
Jedi Apprentice Special Edition #1: Deceptions (young reader series)- Jude Watson- 29 BBY
Jedi Apprentice Special Edition #2: The Followers
Jedi Quest : Path to Truth - (young reader) - Jude Watson - 28 BBY
Jedi Quest #1-10 (young reader series) - Jude Watson - 27 BBY
Outbound Flight - Timothy Zahn - 27 BBY
The Approaching Storm - Alan Dean Foster - 22.5 BBY
-------------------- THE CLONE WAR ERA - 22 - 19 BBY>
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones - R.A. Salvatore (novelization) -22 BBY
Boba Fett #1-2 (young readers series) - Terry Bisson
Boba Fett #3-6 (young readers series) - Elizabeth Hand - 22-20 BBY
Star Wars Republic Commando: Hard Contact - Karen Traviss
Shatterpoint - Matthew Stover - 21 BBY
The Cestus Deception - Steven Barnes>>
-- The Hive (novella included in Cestus Deception)
Star Wars Republic Commando: Triple Zero - Karen Traviss
MedStar I: Battle Surgeons - Michael Reaves & Steve Perry >> - 20 BBY
MedStar II: Jedi Healer
Jedi Trial - David Sherman & Dan Cragg - 19.5 BBY
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous - Sean Stewart
Labrynth Of Evil - James Luceno - 19 BBY
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith - Matthew Stover (novelization) - 19 BBY
Dark Lord: The Rise Of Darth Vader - James Luceno
-------------------- REBELLION ERA - 19 BBY - 4 ABY>
Untitled Death Star Novel - Michael Reaves & Steve Perry (@ October 2007) - 18.5 BBY
Coruscant Nights Trilogy: - Michael Reaves
1 - Jedi Twilight - (@ July, 2008)
2 - Chiascuro - (@ September 2008)
3 - Patterns of Force - (@ November 2008)
The Last of the Jedi: (young readers series) - Jude Watson - 18 - 10 BBY
- 1- The Desperate Mission
- 2 - Dark Warning
- 3 - Underworld
- 4 - Death on Naboo
- 5 - A Tangled Web - (@ August 2006)
- 6 - Untitled - (@ August 2006)
- 7 - Untitled - (@ November 2006)
- 8 - Untitled - (@ February 2007)
- 9 - Untitled - (@ May 2007)
-10 -Untitled - (@ August 2007)
-------------------- GALACTIC CIVIL WAR ERA - 10 BBY - 4 ABY>
The Han Solo Trilogy: - A.C. Crispin
1 - The Paradise Snare -10 BBY
2 - The Hutt Gambit -5 BBY
3 - Rebel Dawn
The Adventures of Lando Calrissian series: - L. Neil Smith - starting 5 BBY
1 - Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu
2 - Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon
3 - Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka
The Han Solo Adventures series: - Brian Daley
1 - Han Solo at Stars' End
2 - Han Solo's Revenge
3 - Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Dark Forces: - *GN* (graphic novels) - William C. Dietz (writer)
- I - Soldier for the Empire
- II - Rebel Agent
- III - Jedi Knight
Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker - George Lucas - 0 BY
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope - Alan Dean Foster (novelization) - 0 years BY
Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina - Kevin J. Anderson
Star Wars Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine - Haden Blackman
Splinter of the Mind's Eye - Alan Dean Foster - 2 ABY
Allegiance - Timothy Zahn (@ February 2007)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back - Donald F. Glut (novelization) - 3 ABY
Tales of the Bounty Hunters - Kevin J. Anderson
Shadows Of The Empire - Steve Perry - 3.5 ABY
The Bounty Hunter Wars series: - K.W. Jeter - 4 ABY
1 - The Mandalorian Armor
2 - Slave Ship
3 - Hard Merchandise
Tales from Jabba's Palace - Kevin J. Anderson
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - James Kahn (novelization) - 4 ABY
-------------------- movie era ends -
-------------------- THE NEW REPUBLIC ERA - 4 - 25 ABY>
The Truce At Bakura - Kathy Tyers - 4 ABY
The Courtship Of Princess Leia - Dave Wolverton - 8 ABY
Tattooine Ghost - Troy Denning
- A Forest Apart (novella included in Tatooine Ghost)
X - Wing series: - 6 to 13 ABY
1 - Rogue Squadron - Michael A. Stackpole>> - 6 ABY
2 - Wedge's Gamble
3 - The Krystos Trap - 7 ABY
4 - The Bacta War
5 - Wraith Squadron - Aaron Allston>>
6 - Iron Fist
7 - Solo Command
8 - Isard's Revenge - Michael A. Stackpole - 9 ABY
9 - Starfighters of Adumar - Aaron Allston - 13 ABY
The Thrawn Trilogy: - Timothy Zahn - 9 ABY
1 - Heir to the Empire
2 - Dark Force Rising
3 - The Last Command
Dark Empire I and II - *GN* (graphic novels) - Tom Veitch - 10 ABY
The Jedi Academy Trilogy: - Kevin J. Anderson - 11 ABY
1 - Jedi Search
2 - Dark Apprentice
3 - Champions of the Force
I, Jedi - Michael Stackpole
Callista Trilogy: - 12-13 ABY
1 - Children of the Jedi - Barbara Hambly
2 - Darksaber - Kevin J. Anderson
3 - Planet of Twilight - Barbara Hambly - 13 ABY
The Crystal Star - Vonda McIntyre - 14 ABY
The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy: - Michael P. Kube-McDowell - 16-17 ABY
1 - Before the Storm
2 - Shield of Lies
3 - Tyrant's Test
The New Rebellion - Kristine Rusch - 17 ABY
The Correlian Trilogy: - Roger Macbride Allen - 18 years ABY
1 - Ambush at Corellia
2 - Assault at Selonia
3 - Showdown at Centerpoint
The Hand of Thrawn duology: - Timothy Zahn - 19 years ABY
1 - Specter Of The Past
2 - Vision Of The Future
Survivor's Quest - Timothy Zahn - 21 ABY
Junior Jedi Knights: (young readers) - 22 ABY
- 1 - The Golden Globe - Nancy Richardson>>
- 2 - Lyric's World
- 3 - Promises
- 4 - Anakin's Quest - Rebecca Moesta>>
- 5 - Vader's Fortress
- 6 - Kenobi's Blade
Young Jedi Knights series: (young readers) - Kevin J. Anderson & Rebecca Moesta
- Young Jedi Knights 1- 6: The Rise of the Shadow Academy: - 23 ABY
- 1 - Heirs of the Force
- 2 - Shadow Academy
- 3 - The Lost Ones
-------- (YJK 1-3 Omnibus) - Jedi Shadow
- 4 - Lightsabers
- 5 - The Darkest Knight
- 6 - Jedi Under Siege
-------- (YJK 4-6 Omnibus) - Jedi Sunrise
- Young Jedi Knights 7-11: The Fall of the Diversity Alliance:
- 7 - Shards of Alderaan
- 8 - Diversity Alliance
- 9 - Delusions of Grandeur
- 10 - Jedi Bounty
- 11 - The Emperor's Plague
- Young Jedi Knights 12-14: Under Black Sun: - 24 ABY
- 12 - Return to Ord Mantell
- 13 - Trouble on Cloud City
- 14 - Crisis at Crystal Reef
-------------------- NEW JEDI ORDER ERA - 25 - 34 ABY>
The New Jedi Order series: - 25 - 29 ABY
1 - Vector Prime - R.A. Salvatore - 25 ABY
2 - Dark Tide I: Onslaught - Michael A. Stackpole>>
3 - Dark Tide II: Ruin
4 - Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial - James Luceno>>
5 - Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse
6 - Balance Point - Kathy Tyers - 26 ABY
7 - Edge of Victory I: Conquest - Greg Keyes>>
8 - Edge of Victory II: Rebirth
9 - Star by Star - Troy Denning - 27 ABY
- - - Recovery (novella included in Star by Star)
10- Dark Journey - Elaine Cunningham
11- Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream - Aaron Allston>>
12- Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand
13- Traitor - Matthew Stover
14- Destiny's Way - Walter Jon Williams - 28 ABY
15- Force Heretic I: Remnant - Sean Williams & Shane Dix>>
16- Force Heretic II: Refugee
17- Force Heretic III: Reunion
18- The Final Prophecy - Greg Keyes
19- The Unifying Force - James Luceno
-------------------- THE LEGACY ERA - 34 ABY + >
The Dark Nest Trilogy: - Troy Denning - 34 ABY
1 - The Joiner King
- - Ylesia (pdf download/novella included in Joiner King) - Walter Jon Williams - 28 ABY
2 - The Unseen Queen
3 - The Swarm War
Legacy of the Force series: starting 37 ABY
1 - Betrayal - Aaron Allston (@ May 30, 2006 Hardcover)
2 - Bloodlines - Karen Traviss (@ August 29, 2006 Paperback)
3 - Tempest - Troy Denning (@ November 2006 Paperback)
4 - Exile - Aaron Allston (@ February 27, 2007 Paperback)
5 - Sacrifice - Karen Traviss (@ June 2007 Hardcover)
6 - Untitled Paperback - Troy Denning (@ September 2007 Paperback)
7 - Untitled Paperback - Aaron Allston (@ November 2007 Paperback)
8 - Untitled Paperback - Karen Traviss (@ March 2008 Paperback)
9 - Untitled Hardcover - Troy Denning (@ June 2008 Hardcover)
There are also two anthologies; Tales from the Empire and Tales from the New Republic, both edited by Peter Schweighofer, that contain short and side stories from different periods in the timeline, and include such authors as Timothy Zahn and Michael A. Stackpole.
Del Rey's Star Wars Timeline
Del Rey's Star Wars home page
- This will link to *most* of the books and a little summary, except for the graphic novels and young readers books of course (I've tried to link the latter to their publisher or other info).
*A good EU primer
If you havent had the pleasure to own or read the Star Wars New Essential Chronology, but would like to get an idea of the EU with a little synapsis of how all the books, comics and games of the EU link together, I highly recommend this article on sw.com (it rocks!): Endnotes for The New Essential Chronology
This will be an ongoing process as new books come out and with the help of other fans to tell me if I've missed anything. I basically wanted to make this list for my own reference, but have seen others who were looking for a "books only list", so I figured I'd go live with it and share the love. If you were looking for this list, enjoy!
Here's my little intro (even though it's at the end) and disclaimer. I have been a complete and total SW film purist until about a month after ROTS was released ( okay! i lied!! ). Now I am an EU noob and spoiler feind (of which you will find none in this blog). My disclaimer is that I still will not be reading any of the film novelizations. Its a film purism thing. Hey - we all have our "thing". Even if I have TESB and ANH novels from when I was a kid... I dont actually remember them.
December 2005 - Well, previously my disclaimer included not reading any books within the film era as well. Now that has changed since Dark Lord was released. I am also indulging in the young readers series Last of the Jedi which coincides with Dark Lord and takes place right after ROTS. I'm sure there will be many more to come, but no film novelizations still - I still feel the same way about those.
I'm also starting to get back into the comics again, which I hadnt paid much attention to since the early 80s. I recently was reunited with my old SW Marvel Comics collection, of which I didnt remember how many I actually had. It starts from #1 and runs somewhere into the 60s, with very few missing issues, and thankfully not too much damage to most of them for being in a cardboard box in a barn attic for 25 years or so. Now, Dark Horse has reprinted that whole series in the form of omnibus style TPBS, called "A long Time Ago...", Of which I hope to collect. I'll save the comics talk for another blog maybe.
I also got lucky and found the first issue of KOTOR recently (they were selling out quick, I got the last copy in the shop), and hope to continue with that series - ah, there's something about a fresh start with a new series.
March, 2006 - LOL @ me above... not a n00b no mo'! I've read a ton of stuff, and have learned so much in relatively short amount of time. I'm actually starting to feel a little more caught up to my friends who have been reading the EU since it really started to get published.
Posted by starthunder at 3:54 PM
I love a good list. In the tradition of The Novels of Star Wars, here is a somewhat complete list of Star Wars Comic TPBs. This will be updated for new releases and corrections, so check on back here from time to time.
I'm just starting out with the Star Wars comics, or rather revisiting them... I havent followed them since the Star Wars Marvel Comic series from the 70s and 80s. Good old Dark Horse has gone and put much of the old, as well as keeping the new in circulation, and compiling almost all of the series to TPB.
In an effort to simplify, I am only listing the TPBs (and some GNs) here, and no Infinities either (even though some of the multi-era TPBs may contain Infinities within them. I did list those here). I wont bother listing era titles here either, as I've exhausted that in the Novels list. Feel free to refer to that if its of interest. Scroll to the end here for further ramblings.
|Star Wars Comic TPB Timeline|
Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: The Fall of the Sith Empire
Tales of the Jedi: Knights of the Old Republic
Tales of the Jedi: The Freedom Nadd Uprising
Tales of the Jedi: Dark Lords of the Sith
Tales of the Jedi: Sith War
Tales of the Jedi: Redemption
Jedi vs. Sith
The Stark Hyperspace War
Jedi Council: Acts of War
Prelude to Rebellion
Episode I: The Phantom Mencace
Jango Fett - Open Seasons
Emissaries to Malastare
Rite of Passage
Jango Fett GN (Graphic Novel)
Zam Wesell GN
Honor and Duty (up to 19 BBY) (@ May 10, 2006)
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
- Vol. 1: The Defense of Kamino
- Vol. 2: Victories and Sacrifices
- Vol. 3: Last Stand on Jablim
- Vol. 4: Light and Dark
- Vol. 5: The Best Blades
- Vol. 6: On the Fields of Battle
- Vol. 7: When They Were Brothers
- Vol. 8 The Last Siege, The Final Truth
- Vol. 9: Endgame (@ Jul 26, 2006)
Clone Wars Adventures: (comic digest from cartoon)
- Volumes 1-4
- Vol. 5 (@ April 19, 2006)
- Vol. 6 (@ August 9, 2006)
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Droids: The Kalarba Adventures
Droids: The Protocol Offensive (not a TPB, but co-written by Anthony Daniels)
Jabba the Hutt: Art of the Deal
Classic Star Wars: Han Solo at Stars' End
Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire
Underworld: The Yavin Vassilika
Empire Vol. 1: Betrayal
Empire Vol. 2: Darklighter
0 BY - Battle of Yavin
Episode IV: A New Hope
Empire Vol. 3: The Imperial Perspective
Empire Vol. 4: Heart of the Rebellion
Empire Vol. 5: Allies and Adversaries (? date)
Classic Star Wars: The Early Adventures
A Long Time Ago Vol 1: Doomworld
A Long Time Ago Vol. 2: Dark Encounters
Classic Star Wars Vol. 1: In Deadly Pursuit
Classic Star Wars Vol. 2: The Rebel Storm
Classic Star Wars Vol. 3: Escape to Hoth
Splinter of the Mind's Eye
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
A Long Time Ago Vol. 3: Resurrection of Evil
A Long Time Ago Vol. 4: Screams in the Void
A Long Time Ago Vol. 5: Fool's Bounty
Shadows of the Empire
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
Shadows of the Empire - Evolution
A Long Time Ago Vol. 6: Wookie World
A Long Time Ago Vol. 7: Far, Far Away
X-Wing: Rogue Squadron Vol.1 Omnibus (@ June 7, 2006)
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command
Dark Empire (aka Dark Empire I)
Dark Empire II
Boba Fett - Death, Lies & Treachery
Crimson Empire - Council of Blood
Jedi Academy: Leviathan
Spans multiple eras:
A Long Time Ago (first Star Wars comics - originally by Marvel):
- Vol. 1: Doomworld - 0 BY
- Vol. 2: Dark Encounters - 1 ABY
- Vol. 3: Resurrection of Evil - 3 ABY
- Vol. 4: Screams in the Void - 3 ABY
- Vol. 5: Fool's Bounty - 3 ABY
- Vol. 6: Wookie World - 4 ABY
- Vol. 7: Far, Far Away - 4 ABY
The Bounty Hunters
Dark Forces: (This is the story of Kyle Katarn)
- I Soldier for the Empire
- II Rebel Agent
- III Jedi Knight
In my Novels list, I referred to the Star Wars New Essential Chronology as the ultimate resource chronology, as well as Star Wars Timeline Gold. For the comics, we now have The Star Wars Comic Companion, of which I have yet to lay my grubby little paws on, but hopefully it will be on its way to my mailbox in the coming weeks.
I think many of you know what the BBY and ABY stand for. If not:
BY = Battle of Yavin, which takes place in Episode IV: A New Hope
BBY = (years) Before the Battle of Yavin
ABY = (years) After the Battle of Yavin
I use the @ symbol to connote the date for upcoming releases.
A few of these are actually graphic novels (GN), which as opposed to the TPBs (trade paperbacks), are not collections of a comic series run. They are stand alone novels.
About the Star Wars films listed above: There are many different comic adaptations of the films, including manga (another subject I didnt include in this list, which goes into Star Wars beyond the films too.. maybe someday I'll get it in here). Suffice it to say that I merely listed the individual episodes here as a reference point to the timeline.
Alrighty! Just like my SW Novel list, I put this together so I could get the story straight for myself, and also to have a priority "shopping list" (so to speak) for myself. Its also handy to have these lists stored on a server, so there are a few more ways to access this if need be.
Q: "So then why dont you just use Dark Horse's online timeline?"
A: "That would be too easy"
Actually and frankly, they way they have the timeline laid out is a little confusing for the stuff I want to see. And by making a list here myself, I actually learn it.
This is by no means a big time collector's reference list of Star Wars obscura. I've seen some of those lists, and they only frusterate me with the knowledge that these things are practically impossible to find. This is the stuff thats out there, for everyone to access, and also the items that are generally withing the main continuity of the EU timeline. Again, as I said above - no infinities or other rare and obscure stuff for the most part.
There are several series that arent put to TPB, though highly worthy (like the new KOTOR series, of which we're waiting on issue #4), I havent figured out how or if they should be incorporated to this list yet. Surely when they do arrive as TPBs, they will be added. For now however, they remain absent - so technically this isn't a complete list, even though Dark Horse has done a n impressive job at compiling most of it.
This is mostly from the timeline provided on the Dark Horse website. There's another great little community over there. I highly recommend surfing around that site for more info on the comics, since they are now the main Star Wars comic publisher. Of course, keep checking in at our very own starwars.com EU comics pages for updates on new releases etc.
Also like my Novel list (and any blog I write), I welcome input from everyone, especially to help keep the list as correct and updated as possible. Like I said above, this will be frequently updated, fixed up and spackled, added to and all that. Eventually, I hope to get a link (either sw.com or publisher) to each title. But I said that about the Novel list and look how far I got with that. A listaholic's work is never done.
I'm not sure of the timeline date for Empire Vol. 5: Allies and Adversaries. I just stuck it up there where I thought it fit. Another one I have yet to put in the list is The Hunt for Aurra Sing, which I know takes place sometime before Episode III, but I'm not sure exactly. The upcoming Honor and Duty is a guess too, since it is only said to have begun before the Clone Wars and runs to Vader's first assignment (you all know what that is!). Surely there will be many more changes and additions to this list.
EU Comics Archive at starwars.com
Dark Horse Star Wars site
Dark Horse Star Wars comic timeline
A reminder to fellow Hyperspace members: Dont forget to drop by your friendly neighborhood Daily Webstrip, for comics featuring art and writing from some of our very own and loveable greenie weenie admins Ghent and Pabawan.
Thanks - J
Originally posted on my starwars.com blog April 11, 2006.
Posted by starthunder at 3:32 PM
For the sake of opening this thing, finally... my real space blog. Also wanted to upload a picture to my profile that was too big of a URL file size. More server space out in this server far far away. As I noticed with Rive Caedo, I will probably use this more in the future to back up my blogs from the official site mostly. I'm a long ways away from maxing that out yet.
Oh yeah, the picture... I'm an artist of sorts, many different sorts actually. I've been getting back into comics recently, and have been sketching up a bit. This is a prototype for jkthunder in the GFFA, er.. 9FF4 (I just threw that name up there for now... hope I can edit it later). There's a story that goes along with her. I'm creeping myself out by talking in the third person. To be continued...
Posted by starthunder at 4:34 PM